Episode Transcript
Alara Sage (00:05.458)
know what I forgot to let's just breathe for just a moment. Let's just take some nice deep breaths into our body.
Alara Sage (00:20.022)
beautiful. I just like to start off that way. Okay.
Hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of Wealth Embodied, where we activate and inspire you in your wealth consciousness, your creative genius, and your visionary impact. I'm your host, Alara Sage. And you you hear me talk a lot about breathing into your wealth and amplifying your wealth through breath. What if we could triple our income by shaking our hands? This conversation excites me. I'm so thrilled to hear.
What our wonderful guest today, Brent Phillips has to say about this. He's a two-time Amazon best-selling author and his new ebook explores the spiritual technology of movement feedback holography, which combines special quantum field meditations. We all know about that, right? With specific physical movements to easily identify and release old dysfunctional patterns
beliefs and traumas from the subconscious mind. That is absolutely brilliant. Brent, thank you so much for being here with us today.
Brent Michael Phillips (01:31.278)
I'm excited to be here. This is great.
Alara Sage (01:33.29)
So let's start with, you know, I love the catchy, catchy title and I can't wait to dive in, but I also love to hear stories. So where did you figure this out? Shake your fingers, shake your hands, triple your income.
Brent Michael Phillips (01:48.43)
Short answer is I did not learn it from my mentor. He used to say when people would ask to learn the work, he'd teach them. When people would ask to have it explained to them, he'd have them call me. And because my background isn't in energy healing or intuition or anything like that, I come from a science and engineering background. And to make a very long story very short, I was a superstar coming out of MIT. I was one of the internet pioneers.
created a revolutionary, a whole new genre of video games that today is a multi-billion dollar industry. And I lost everything. I had a massive health crisis. My best friend betrayed me. And I was in the wilderness and the darkness. I really thought my life was over. I spent years in different therapies and treatments until I had a surgery that left my arm paralyzed. And I got into energy healing because it was a really funny story.
My arm wasn't moving. I'd had a manipulation under anesthesia, physical therapy, all these things. And my Aunt Lauren said to call her friend Terry, who did some kind of energy healing. And I didn't want to do it. I'm like, it's nonsense. It's not going to help, right? And eventually I did, because she's like, hey, Brent, I will pay for your session. I will take you out to dinner anywhere you want to go in LA. And I was like, draw girl? And she goes, sure. I'm like, all right, awesome. I'm in. So.
And I just went there to get the free dinner. But she talked to me about the power of the subconscious and all these things about how we create our health and our experiences. And it was all very interesting. But I'm like, what, you know, I'm not here to talk about my feelings lady, right? I'm in pain. I can't move my arm. I'm on disability. I've been told I can never work. Right. And at the end of the session, she just went into a meditative trance and I felt this crack and pop in my elbow. When by the time she opened her eyes, I could move my arm again. So that was the.
legit miracle that got me into this. And that was kind of my first hook into the power of the subconscious mind.
Alara Sage (03:50.9)
Wow.
Brent Michael Phillips (03:51.542)
And that was so interesting because I always thought I'd be a software engineer. I loved video games growing up. I wrote my first video game at 12 years old. That was my dream. So I went to MIT and learned about the internet. I'm like, wow, I'm going to make internet-based video games. Seemed like a great idea at the time, Late 80s, early 90s. And I ended up instead having my life crushed and then finding this woman that's essentially teaching me computer programming, but on the subconscious for health and healing.
And so that was the first of many miracles. To skip ahead in the story, I did get a lot of my life back learning the basics of energy healing. I was able to reduce my pain. I started a business as a professional healer and teacher, 22 years as we sit here and speak. I was able to get active again. I started exercising, dating, know, having a normal life. But it all fell apart about five years later. And
At the same time, I had one suffered the worst heartbreak of my life. So I was just like devastated, right? Telling everyone there's this gaping hole in my chest where my heart used to be and how much pain I was in. And I had hired a financial advisor who turned out to be a criminal and robbed me blind and left me a million dollars in debt. So that was kind of the low point. And that was actually in 2008.
and it was the next day I met my late mentor Carl who taught me movement. And that is the short answer I learned from Carl. And what had happened was I had been working with a life coach and a dating coach and they had worked with me and couldn't make any progress and they're like Brent we've got to kick you up the food chain to the master and they introduced me to Dr. Carl Wolf. And I booked a session with him and he said okay we're going to do a movement session.
And I'm like, okay, I've done like Pilates and yoga and martial arts, right? I figured it'd be Tai Chi or something, right? And I meet him down on Venice Beach by the roller blade rental station. And I'm like, what a strange place to do a healing session, right? Thought it would be your home, your office, right? Buddha statue, right? know, water with slices of a cucumber or something like that. It's like Brent, get some roller blades, get them on and skate in a circle. So I spent about...
Alara Sage (05:58.304)
Something else then, right.
Brent Michael Phillips (06:10.702)
20 minutes rollerblading in the circle in a parking lot and he videotaped me. And again, I'm like, what the heck is going on, right? I had done a lot of healing at this point. I was a professional for almost five years. I had worked with hundreds of people. I was certified in like 22 modalities, know, went nuts on it like a lot of us do when we get into it. But I was like, what is going on? And after that, we sat in his truck and he played the video and he just kind of criticized my energy.
I see this, I don't see that. You're leaking energy here. There's this mess of this here and this going on there. And I was like, what is going on here? Right? And then after about an hour or so, he's like, well, Brent, you know.
Alara Sage (06:49.269)
So he was criticizing your energy, not your bodily movements and your biomechanics. OK, that's what I was thinking.
Brent Michael Phillips (06:52.834)
Well, was through my movements he was reading the energy. And at the end, he's like, okay, Brent, you know, nice to meet you. You know, are you ready to add a zero to your income? And I was like, haha, when are we going to do the heat leak? Right? He's like, no, no, we're done. And I went home and I was actually upset. I'm like, you didn't try to fix me, right? I already know my life's a wreck, right? I went bankrupt yesterday. I this terrible heartbreak. I'm down on myself. Yada, yada, right? And I called Brian who had recommended me to him and
Alara Sage (07:11.199)
Yeah.
Brent Michael Phillips (07:22.766)
I got a little upset. like, dude, what's wrong with you? I spent my last $500 before bankruptcy on this guy. All he did was have me rollerblade and criticize me. And I remember what Brian said is, Brent, relax, give it three weeks and three weeks passes. Let me know. I'll try to make it right. If you feel you got nothing out of this. It's like, okay. But it didn't take three weeks. It only took three days that it was the craziest thing. I had done almost $50,000 of business in three days and it didn't make a lot of sense.
I had done a couple talks where normally four or five people show up. got 40, 50. And I remember I called Brian and I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry. This Carl guy is magic. Thank you. Life changing. So that's the longer version of how did I find out about this? Again, I had never heard of this. I never heard of people doing healing by rollerblading or reading movement, right? Seemed kind of nuts. I'm like, you know, I understand focused prayer and hands-on healing and you know, crystals and
herbs and things like that. But I'm like, what is this? And the reason we call it movement feedback holography is that it's based on the principle that how you do anything is how you do everything. That every cell in your body has the same DNA. And your energy shows up in all of your actions, your activities, your attitudes, how you speak, how you treat people. It's all driven inside by your internal mythology. And that's kind of the thing I learned was
humans are just computers, your body is the hardware, your subconscious mind is the software. And so a lot of what I learned at MIT in coding, I could apply directly to this. Like, software, this I actually know how to do. This is like the one thing in the world that I am truly world class at. I can do this. And what's going on is we use the movements to read the energy patterns of the activities that run your life, because all of us are run by stories.
It's what gives meaning and value to what we experience. It's simply a story in the mind. And the movement allows us to, one, see what your true energy is. And then people that know how to read the energy give you feedback, and that's an important part of it. To hear about the energy you're projecting that we're generally oblivious to. Most people have no idea that they're running all these behaviors and programs. We all think we're rational and clever and all this good stuff. No, not at all. We're all just a bunch of meat robots.
Brent Michael Phillips (09:51.362)
with a spiritual core. And so we look at the energy and by giving feedback, it actually makes shifts in the energy. And it works because holographically, how you do anything is how you do everything. Again, you could take one cell of your body and grow a new you if you had advanced technology. Because all the information for the whole thing is contained in each part. That's what holography means. You put it all together, it is a really powerful transformational process.
And remember how I said, yeah, I felt that Carl just kind of criticized me and it felt kind of unfair. Well, that was the feedback. That there's some magic and when someone tells you the energy you're putting out there unconsciously, it self-regulates and changes. It evolves and improves. It's kind of like a code upgrade. And I had no idea how much he had done to upgrade my code. When I'm sitting in his truck just thinking, you know, what's going on?
Alara Sage (10:31.851)
Hmm
Right.
Brent Michael Phillips (10:46.282)
And also to be fair, there is a meditative piece to it we call beaming or consciousness shifting. And it's an expansion of your mind and perception. And people that are very much in their head may not notice it right away. That's why I didn't feel it my first session. But it's a reconnection as the quantum field meditation you mentioned.
Alara Sage (11:01.547)
Mm.
Alara Sage (11:06.187)
So you were in your head even though you had been a healer of many years? Interesting.
Brent Michael Phillips (11:09.174)
Absolutely. Yes. I was still really deep in my head. Carl told me later more so than anyone he had ever worked with. However, I like to think that the five years as a healer helped to get me to be not as much in my head as I would have been otherwise. That's fair. Yeah, exactly. So.
Alara Sage (11:13.886)
Interesting.
Wow.
Alara Sage (11:23.227)
Right. You would have been like off the charts. That's, that's fair to say. think. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense to me because before I did all of that, I do now and the healer and all of that. And I worked with horses and I did physical therapy to horses. And one of the things that we would always do and why I understood what you were saying, why he had you circling on skates. The skates part had me for a little bit, but we would always, I would always have the horses move. Right. Because
Brent Michael Phillips (11:35.64)
Mm-hmm.
wow.
Brent Michael Phillips (11:45.902)
Mm-hmm.
Alara Sage (11:51.434)
the way that their body moved would tell me so much just about the biomechanics. And then when I would actually go in and touch them and connect more to their body, all of that information of why that leg drags a little bit more and thus is affecting that left shoulder. the stories, and I mean, animals have the same thing. They have the stories and the subconscious mind. Horses, yeah, horses really hold on to things quite strongly. And
Brent Michael Phillips (12:09.038)
They're just a little simpler, more straightforward than ours.
Horses are so fun because on intensives with Carl when we went on our small group retreats, one of our exercises was we'd stand by a little pasture where there were horses and we'd have to beam them and do the quantum meditation until they came over to us. So the horses are very much in tune with the life force and we basically look like a bright light on their radar. And they're like, ooh, what's that? But yeah, horses are incredibly spiritual, very much in touch with their intuition and the flow.
Alara Sage (12:32.203)
Yeah, they're very receptive to that. Yes. Yes.
Yeah, they taught me everything I knew about healing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But that's how I understood what you were saying about the movement, right? So what is the process? Like when you say shake your hands, that's your title. What are you referring to exactly?
Brent Michael Phillips (12:48.025)
We could all learn a lot from animals. Yeah.
Brent Michael Phillips (12:55.256)
Yep. Now, yes, obviously standing and shaking your hands is not on its own will not triple the income. The pieces you need are the feedback and the beaming meditation to create the proper brainwave state to entrain the space around you. So, and that's what Carl did with me. You can shake your hands, you can rollerblade. He liked balance exercises. That was just his preference. So rollerblading, skating, riding a bike. But we do handshaking and scooping and hip movements and
You know, even some movements people would be familiar with like a roll up or a stretch. And the whole point is when you move your physical body, your personality or energy projects through every movement. And by getting feedback on it in the proper receptive mind state, it makes deep shifts. So it's really a combination of the meditative aspect with the movement and the feedback that creates the magic. And can people triple their income? Absolutely.
Some of other Carl's other students reported increases of 10 times or more. That's why he told told me at the end. you ready to 10 extra income or add a zero to your income? I thought it was a come on, you know, I was kind of a head case. I only tripled my income though. It took a year and a half. It wasn't like one session and boom one session. I started to see a difference, but it took a lot more much deeper longer term work to get to that place. But absolutely it's
Alara Sage (13:59.788)
Mm.
Alara Sage (14:05.536)
Right.
Alara Sage (14:22.837)
I'm glad you bring that up because it's important not to mislead people. know that yes, we can change quite rapidly overnight and there's always going to be some level of a process to it as well. So there's a combination of both. Yes.
Brent Michael Phillips (14:26.445)
Yeah.
Brent Michael Phillips (14:33.72)
Pretty much always. Yeah, same with my elbow. It's not like all my pain was gone instantly. It's just I had this side effect of this one surgery that I couldn't move my arm. That instantly healed. All the chronic pain and other problems that led me to the surgery, that took a lot more work. So it's not like all my problems ever got solved in an hour. Right? But you know, we say the miracle is there to be allured because what you really need is the process.
Alara Sage (14:39.582)
Yes.
Alara Sage (14:54.534)
Yes, yes.
Alara Sage (15:02.943)
And it helps you create that belief. You know, when you feel that relief, I mean, like for instance, you, this is all like made up. This is just silly. And then you were like, whoa, this is real. And then you dived into it. And that belief is very powerful.
Brent Michael Phillips (15:03.278)
It did.
Brent Michael Phillips (15:14.848)
It was, and for a lot of us that are skeptical, some of us need that. That whenever I doubted it or started to lose my faith or confidence, I could remember, go, well, this really happened, right? And I don't think it was a coincidence. So there's something going on there. There's something for sure.
Alara Sage (15:34.709)
So what is this process that you take people through? Do you work with people online? Is it just in person?
Brent Michael Phillips (15:39.766)
I do it almost entirely online. We've actually found that it works better through a camera than doing it live. It was a crazy thing, but that's what Carl and I found. We co-taught classes for a lot of years and we started doing live online hybrids around 2013. Where we'd have a hotel room and put cameras and have an online audience. And we found that people online actually were shifting faster and better. So he actually got rid of most of his live rooms and I did too. We still do it for other purposes.
Alara Sage (16:03.413)
Why do you think that is?
Brent Michael Phillips (16:09.74)
I do a few intensives for my advanced students a couple of times a year. There are some things you can do in person you can't do otherwise. But yes, for the most part, we do the movement online and we have simple safe movements because it doesn't really matter what movement you do. We're reading the same energy underneath. It's like asking what cell of your body do you take to find the DNA? It doesn't matter. It's all the same. And that allows the software to kind of upgrade itself.
When we get to see exactly what we're really doing, we then make a shift to it. No different than an athlete watching themselves on tape. They go, I kind of dropped my elbow here. I did this. And they make an adjustment and they get better. So it's really a process of software engineering, but much easier than programming an electronic computer. As computers are fussy, I tell you, you make one tiny little mistake, the whole thing comes to a screeching halt.
Alara Sage (17:00.459)
Hahaha.
Alara Sage (17:08.587)
So what are some of the examples that you have of people with this process?
Brent Michael Phillips (17:12.622)
With a movement, the biggest thing it helps people with is career success and money. But that's not what we directly work on. We really directly work on self-confidence, the idea of the self. And it's an embodiment process of getting more consciousness into your body. And so when we do the movements and the beaming, we're also, I think of it like a tube of toothpaste. When we're born, our tube is full of toothpaste.
where babies were full of life force, but it gets squeezed out as we get older and traumatized and we have losses and pains and setbacks and all that. And this process is really getting the life force energy back into your body. That is embodiment. And from that place, your actions and words become very powerful. The opposite would be living from the mind disconnected from the body in the space. There you're living in a mental virtual reality and it's quite compelling.
I got stuck there for decades. So I get the attraction. But you know, the real world is so much more powerful. And so the movement over time is designed to get your body back into consciousness to effortlessly interact with the flow around us. So for example, you're you're fashioning your bones start carrying your weight instead of your muscle. You let go of a lot of unnecessary tension. You see a lot of the insanity where we engage in emotionally.
Alara Sage (18:19.125)
Yes.
Brent Michael Phillips (18:40.462)
we're able to let it go. So it's very much get out of your own way, channel this divine flow into your life, and then just kind of be present as it carries you.
Alara Sage (18:51.487)
So this is very specific to somebody signing up for a session with you, but is there anything that you can help people apply to their lives right now?
Brent Michael Phillips (19:00.514)
Yeah, absolutely. I would say that there's a couple things, what I call prerequisites for growth and success. Number one, I think the most important thing is we all live in prisons constructed out of what we think we know. That's the inner mythology. That's the software. That's the subconscious. And the more we're willing to let go of what we think we know, the more room transformation and miracles and changes have. And for a lot of us, it forces us to get really desperate.
to get really to that place of, my God, I'm out of options, I'm totally screwed, before we're willing to surrender. But if you're willing to be wrong and let go of what you think you know, you don't have to crater your life to see a big transformation. Many high level healers, mystics, shamans, intuitives have that story. Some kind of huge crisis, but it doesn't have to be that way, right? Yeah, you know, I've had seven dark nights of the soul, which seems kind of unfair. I you're only supposed to have one.
Alara Sage (19:52.479)
I had it many times.
Alara Sage (19:57.14)
Yeah.
Brent Michael Phillips (19:59.299)
Right?
Alara Sage (20:00.02)
No, it's definitely not one. And I think that's a mistake because I've had, I don't know I've had seven, but I've definitely had several very intense ones. Like for you, same thing. I got scammed. I lost all of my money. went into debt for the first, know, in my, my business collapsed like big massive slaps across the face, but they work.
Brent Michael Phillips (20:01.986)
Yeah, I lived that for, lived that. Yeah.
Brent Michael Phillips (20:16.366)
Yep.
Yup.
Yep, that's what I'm saying. It works to break you down and be willing to surrender. I would just encourage people, if you're willing to let go before the huge crisis, you know, it's not necessary. It's just we're so stubborn. Again, that's getting us out of our own way. If we would just be our true selves, live with the flow of life, we would do amazing. But, you know, all these stories in the mind, if it has to be this and I can't have that and I like this and I like that, it just makes it a lot harder.
Alara Sage (20:27.231)
Yes.
Alara Sage (20:30.923)
It isn't.
Brent Michael Phillips (20:52.631)
So, but.
Alara Sage (20:52.693)
I love what you said about the willing to be wrong because funny enough, I've actually heard that statement several times just in the last couple of days. And I've never really heard that before. Can you kind of go a little bit deeper into that, what that means?
Brent Michael Phillips (21:06.648)
Sure. Many of us think that we're right about everything all the time. And clearly we can't be. We all think we know what's best for our lives. I should make this much money. I should be dating that person or married here or living there or driving this or doing that. And that is the drama we get caught up in. That's the mind. That's the ego. What I encourage everyone to do is to kind of let go of that and use the ego to go, well, this is what I think I want.
You know, I think I want this job. I think I want to drive this car and live here. But go, hey, know, divine greater power, wherever you take me, I'll trust is the right place. But you know, if you're gonna have it my way, this is what I want. Then we're willing to let go. Then we're willing to be wrong. So for example, you're really in love with someone like I was. Funny thing, every single person I knew told me she was wrong. Not a single person that knew me said, wow, you should be together.
But again, I was crazy in love. I didn't want to hear it. Looking back, go, yeah, everyone I knew was right. I don't think she would have been right for me long term. You know, even terms of the job we have. That I partly went bankrupt because I got too aggressive with investments and trusted the wrong person because I got greedy. And I was, you know, then in debt having to work my way out of it, which took a lot of work over a very long time. But I had to surrender that and go, hey, you know what?
Alara Sage (22:29.653)
Same.
Brent Michael Phillips (22:37.878)
I'd love to have passive income and be partying, living on a tropical island, spending my days hot tubbing with supermodels, right? But that's not what the divine has put in front of me today. So I trust this is where I need to be. So the more we can surrender to where we're at and trust it's the right place, the easier it is to move forward. It's all that judgment and resistance of where we're at. You know, I should be here, I should be there. I'm frustrated, I'm failing, I'm not good enough. That's the problem. That's the getting in your own way.
Alara Sage (22:50.282)
Yes.
Alara Sage (23:05.844)
Absolutely.
Brent Michael Phillips (23:06.282)
And the movement is amazing because it really bypasses the mind. It goes straight into the body. It's a body-to-body communication.
Alara Sage (23:12.523)
Beautiful.
So if somebody wanted to reach out and learn more or just connect to you and your community, how can they do that?
Brent Michael Phillips (23:22.446)
Sure, best thing is to hop over to my website at AwakeningDynamics.com. I do have six books I've published. You can get those on Amazon Kindle. I have a YouTube channel with a couple hundred videos. So that's a great way to learn more, check out what I have to say, get a sense of my style. And for anyone that's serious about moving forward, if you're like, hey, Brent, I think this is right for me, I want to do this. You'll see a big arrow on my homepage at AwakeningDynamics.com to book a free 15 minute call with me.
Alara Sage (23:27.839)
And you have some books?
Brent Michael Phillips (23:53.25)
And that's for me to get to know you a little bit, because you know what, I'm not right for everyone. And the goal of the call is I want to understand where you are, where you want to go. And I go, hey, you know, I'll let you know if I'm the right person. If so, I'll give you some ideas of how we could work together. If not, I'll do my best to refer you to someone that I think will help you better. And so again, you know, I just say that's just for people that are serious about moving forward. If you might want to do a session, purchase some programs, I'm happy to talk to you. If you just want to kick the tires, go to YouTube.
Alara Sage (24:11.467)
Beautiful.
Brent Michael Phillips (24:21.506)
I'll keep you busy for, I don't know, 100 hours. There's a lot of good content there. Then decide if you want to go further. I think you will. You know, this is amazing stuff. It's really a whole nother level of healing that I've never seen or experienced before, or since. Or since.
Alara Sage (24:35.477)
Beautiful. Yeah, I love I love the combination of the software and the hardware and the I don't know about the meat robot. Yeah, that was that was a tough one for me to swallow. But I also call the brain our computer. And I agree with everything you said. So to the audience, definitely, you know, check out his YouTube start to get a feel if you need to. You can also just jump right in, right? If this is like what I want to shake my hands and triple my income or, know, you're just curious on how this beautiful combination between
Brent Michael Phillips (24:40.405)
Mm-hmm.
Brent Michael Phillips (24:47.704)
Mm-hmm.
Alara Sage (25:05.011)
your body and your movement and your subconscious mind, right? Then definitely reach out, book that call with him. That's a no brainer right there. And these kinds of modalities are so powerful. Just as Brent says so wonderfully, as he was up in his head, learning how to embody is one of the most profound gifts that you can give yourself in your expansion of your ability to really show up in the fullness of your humanity.
Right, like we can get in spiritually, we can get really high, we can go way out and we can do all those things, but we're human, we're here on earth and we have to learn how to embody this life and bring that higher self, that divinity into the body and change the world. That's what that does, it changes the world. So definitely reach out to Brent as always, I'm so grateful that you're part of this audience and until next time, I love you so much.
